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Old 05-12-2016, 12:41 AM   #9
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None of that is likely to ever happen. It's too much of a risk for an agent to get in the game so far in advance. Even so-called blue chip recruits turn out to be bombs. At the earliest agents will jump in after a year of playing time.

Honestly, players being repped by agents looking for the best situation isn't half as seedy as what goes on now. But this is not realistic, what you're saying. Schools still have to offer and still have to agree. An agent can't bargain for scholarships. It's not a financial contract like a pro contract is. They're not getting a % of his tuition fee or anything. So they can tell a guy with his hear set on Tulane that he has to go to Bama but it's not likely Bama is going to want him. And walking on at a big program vs getting a scholarship from Tulane is an easy decision to make.
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None of that is likely to ever happen. It's too much of a risk for an agent to get in the game so far in advance. Even so-called blue chip recruits turn out to be bombs. At the earliest agents will jump in after a year of playing time.
It already happens.

Oregon paid $25,000 to Willie Lyles to gain the services of RB Lache Seastrunk. It eventually cost Kelly his job and landed the Ducks on probation. After the scandal, Seastrunk transfered to Baylor to play in his home state.

Texas A&M coaches claimed the same Willie Lyles also asked for $80,000 for the then Patrick Johnson, now known as Patrick Peterson. They refused to pay. Peterson ended up at LSU.

Cecil Newton, acting with an agent, demanded 3 payments from Mississippi State to gain the services of his son, Cam. First payment was to be $80,000, after he signed with the Bulldogs. They were to receive a second payment of $30,000 30 days later, and another $50,000 a month later. MSU refused to pay. Cam Newton ended up at Auburn, and Cam's dad received a very generous donation to his church from an undisclosed entity (Believed to be Auburn). Cam wanted to play at Mississippi State.

O.J. Mayo was the top basketball recruit in the country and passed on all the power basketball programs that wanted him. He was sold to USC (a football school), leaving his home state of Ohio. After being exposed by a snitch, Mayo cut ties with the agency that provided the improper benefits in college, and signed with someone else.

To allow agent contact, this stuff moves to a larger scale, as the small time want-to-be agents are weeded out, and the professional guys in suits move in.
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Most colleges aren't going to play ball if it's happening on a wider scale. It's something that is only functional if a small number of people are taking part.
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Most colleges aren't going to play ball if it's happening on a wider scale. It's something that is only functional if a small number of people are taking part.
It would be a small number of people. The Power 5 is the NCAA minority, but they have all the money to do it. Ever see the recruiting expenses for some of those programs? Tennessee spent more than $6 million in a five year period. That is money spent to host recruits, visit their homes and schools, and pay the staff. Most of that money goes to waste, as half the recruits won't even sign with the school pursuing them. Through an agent, the money is spent for the delivery of a product. If the player signs elsewhere, you pay nothing.

The NFL, NBA, and NHL had to impose salary caps to counter the takeover of those leagues by agents. It was a bidding war, and the wealthiest owners were buying all the talent. Allowing agents into the college game is to create a situation 10x worse.
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I do not see how allowing this would not complicate recruiting. I am of the mind to say the rule should stay how it is.
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Keep it the same. If some fringe players hire an agent, enter the draft, then that is it, for being stupid.
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Keep it the same. If some fringe players hire an agent, enter the draft, then that is it, for being stupid.
At one time, my brother and I were seriously considering launching a sports agency. It's one of the best gigs around. The return can be 4x as much as the money forwarded.

As for the guys that went undrafted and hired an agent, they are now in debt. They owe the agent for the money advanced for their training. The agency will get them signed somewhere, even if it's Canada or an NFL practice squad
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